What If: Next Level is an immersive weekend experience featuring Grant Wilson, Reanna Wilson, and Jodi Dehn as they explore the fascinating intersection of paranormal investigation, intuition, consciousness, and the afterlife.

Through compelling presentations, candid conversations, audience interaction, and investigation, you’ll journey beyond ghost stories into the deeper mysteries of what lies between—and beyond—the worlds we know.

Jan 28- 31, 2027 Palmer House Hotel - Sauk Centre, MN

When life becomes overwhelming, your inner wisdom can be drowned out by emotional, mental, and energetic noise.

Join Jodi, Veilwalker and angelic teacher, and Sarah, psychic medium and intuitive guide, for a three-day immersive retreat that blends healing, education, and transformative experiences.

Through practical teachings, thermal mineral baths, crystal digging, and guided spiritual exploration, you’ll clear interference, reconnect with your intuition, and return home with greater clarity, peace, and purpose.

What People Are Saying About Sarah & Jodi’s Events

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I’m hooked! I want to go to every single event moving forward.

N. Smith

I have a lot to think about now - new beginnings. I’m different now.

Michael S.

This event exceeded my expectations

Alicia T.

There’s a sense of magic when Sarah and Jodi come together as teachers and experience leaders. It’s unlike anything that I’ve ever attended.

Robert R.

My biggest takeaway was the family and friendships that were built and strengthened this weekend. I feel invigorated ready for anything.

Mel B.

I have learned some spiritual cleansing before and I have been so negligent. Jodi and Sarah - how unbelievably generous you have been this weekend. Humbling, enriching and empowering.

Renee H.

The combined energy of Sarah Lemos-Aune and Jodi Dehn is both powerful and peaceful. 

K. Clark-Jones

This was one of the best weekends of my life!

W. Friedland

Jodi - you and Sarah are such gifts 💗 Thank you for such an amazing experience!

K. von Eggers

Amazing group of people focused on bettering ourselves and the world around us. Beautiful location, and the hotel was perfect for our group. Such great topics, lessons, exercises, activities and discussions. Highly recommend and can't wait for the next retreat.

Elizabeth A.

 This was truly a spiritual experience. Not only was the location breathtaking, but the itinerary helped me find peace within myself. Jodi and Sarah are so gifted.

V. Breece

This weekend has been a truly unforgettable experience, with joy and enchantment. I met such kind and amazing people this weekend that I can now call friends. I'm excited for the next adventure to see them all again. ❤️

Love, The Leaf

I’ll be at every event from now on. Everything was absolutely perfect!

Michaela S.

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